The secret to using AI well might actually be teaching it to shut up. 

In this bonus episode, I’m joined by Elan Lee - the brilliant mind behind Exploding Kittens and Throw Throw Burrito. While you might expect someone like Elan to use AI to design wild new worlds or characters, that’s not what he does at all. 

Instead, he’s found a way to make AI his creative sparring partner - one that never interrupts, never judges, and somehow helps him think more clearly. 

In this chat, Elan shares how he uses AI to stress-test ideas, solve tricky design problems, and even guide his morning creative walks. His approach flips the script on AI - using it not to generate answers, but to ask better questions. 

Elan and I discuss: 

• How Elan uses AI to uncover blind spots in game instructions 

• Why he treats AI as a creative sparring partner, not a substitute for imagination 

• The surprising way he uses AI to fix in-game economies and balance point systems 

• His daily three-hour “thinking walks” with ChatGPT - and the prompt that changed how he works 

• The one mindset shift that turns AI into a powerful tool for creativity and reflection 

KEY QUOTES 

“When you are working with AI, you don’t let it answer questions for you - you let it ask you questions.” 

“The best ideas come from combining old ideas in new ways. AI just helps me see those connections.” 

Explore Elan’s games at explodingkittens.com and connect with him on Instagram, X (Twitter), and LinkedIn.  

If you haven’t yet listened to my full conversation with Elan - where we dive into creativity, failure, and how he built a global game company that thrives on iteration - you can find that episode here.